Click the Go To Forum Thread link below to jump in and discuss this article and much more! I see that makes sense I dont have a 45* mrd. I'm guessing that distance doesn't work for my AR10 due to the different ballistic factors. Drives me nuts when I have to zero a rifle for 3-gun and the longest range I can get too quickly is a scant 15 yards. For a new build or new sights/red-dots I do an initial 50 yard zero at 10 yards out back with Federal American Eagle 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ XM193BL. 30-30: 150: 2390: 1. The 10 yard RDS zero does require one special skill - the ability to shoot 3 rounds inside a 2 inch circle at 10 yards. Also works for 308 as my SR25 has a Trijicon RMR in a 45 degree offset mount. For a 10.5 inch barrel, the 50 or 36-yard zero will be ideal. Just a fraction of an inch, but I believe 10 yards strikes a useful balance. All Rights Reserved. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I prefer to check the zero at 50 yards quickly and then check again at 200 on a new target when possible. This kind of medium range shooting should be easy if you zero at 100 yards and then adjust your elevation for a 200-yard shot. The 36 yard zero wins. Your largest holds are 4ish inches under at 175 yards and 3ish inches over at 300 yards. Great zero for shooting steel silhouettes for a target. While it is one of those things that needs to be done, no one likes to go zero their rifle. If not shooting anything beyond 250 yards, then the 50 yrd zero is the best option for most people. It is a very fast way to zero an AR-15 which is very convenient for me since many of my carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. The overlaid circles in the included illustrations help to visualize what that 3 MOA extreme spread translates to on a target at a given distance to get beyond arbitrary ballistic figures. It works well because of the compressed distance for which it is designed to be used. I used the Litz test. Aim at the waist and you will hit the chest. Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. One shows it compared to a 100 yard zero and the other shows it compared to different rounds. To move 1 with a 1/2 MOA click at 10 yards, you will need 20 clicks and so on. At 25 yards, a 10 yard zero yields a 1 1/2" hold under. Couple different calibers, keep it the same. To me, the 36 yard zero makes things about as simple as they can get for a multi-purpose rifle that could be used for range, home defense or duty use. With rifles like the AR15and the typical ranges of the intermediate cartridge(normally within 300 yards), you can manipulate the bullet trajectory. Sorry for my ignorance, can you explain the large target waterline test? Post was not sent - check your email addresses! Sometimes it may do better, sometimes worse. Discuss all aspects of firearm ownership Discuss anti-gun legislation Buy, sell, and trade in the classified section Chat with Local gun shops, ranges, trainers & other businesses Discover free outdoor shooting areas Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs. The Army worked with this over 10 years ago when they played with the CAT-C(AWG) program for marksmanship. Paul Howe has a similar method, but his is to start at 7 yards and its good out to 300. it depends on how high your sights are above the bore if using stock ka2 (carry handle ) this will be zero somewhere around 300. Thanks for the cheatI almost feel bad letting you do the work, but I have an SBR that needs zeroing and a sunny afternoon! inches to zero at 200 yards. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Ballistic Advantage is one of the household names in AR15 barrel manufacturing. For better or worse, the 36 yard zero is basically a hybrid that flattens out the St. Louis Arch of a trajectory the 25 yard zero creates while still providing a decent maximum range. Cons: None out to 200 yards. Long range rifles are a different story. Then POI will be slightly lower at 5 yards, and slightly higher at 15 due to parallax between bore axis and C/L of optic. The original non-tapered heavy barrel is 22 long and has a 1/9 twist. 25 Yard Zero - I don't care at all for sighting in at 25 yards. The near/far zero concept (25/300, 50/200, and now 10/50/200) is more like an improved field boresight with live fire than an actual zeroing method. Ian is a life-long firearms enthusiast and competition shooter regularly participating in everything from rimfire to long-range precision matches. The same concept applies to Marines. GET OUT AND SHOOT! If I need to push out a bit farther, I can just hold level with the shoulder line or top of the target for 350 and 400 yards, respectively. Temp was in low 40s, but windchill made it much colder. Using iron sights the SKS manual calls for a 100 meter zero prone with just a sling. Good info here. 100 yards 5.5, 150 yards 6.5, 225 yards 4.75, Pros: Its a 36/200 zero on a 10.5 AR. I prefer 200 yard zero for anything meant to shoot beyond 200 yards. At 36 yards, the bullet's trajectory will be 4 inches above the point of aim, and at 300 yards it will be about 2 inches below the point of aim, providing a suitable point of impact for distances between 25 and 300 yards. Looks more like that. All the explaining I'm not going to do is in this video. To print the target, click the last link and be sure to follow the instructions on printing. - AR15.COM Precision Rifles Marksmanship CMMG - New 9mm Dissent now available Speed Racer, Airforce Vet, and President of TNVC | Ep 025 w/ Victor DiCosola 36 Yard Zero for .556? The 10 yard red dot zero is pretty simple, but it does require the shooter to be able to shoot 3 shots that all touch each other or almost touch each other at 10 yards. Even the text is real thin, hard to read. articles and videos are considered to be suggestions and not recommendations from Springfield Armory. My advice is to get a ballistic calculator and put in your specific data because there are all sorts of things that will affect the results. Broken clouds with me laying prone on damp to muddy ground. I are confused. Ive been wondering whether the 36yd would be better but I dont really see how the 14yd distance change would have some drastic effect? Red dot sight I am using is the Holosun HS503GU which has been rock solid so far. I was recently reading about the 36 yard zero and would like to try it out. Just align your optic on the black dot and bore sight on the gray dot. Sidearm Sunday: Is .30 Super Carry Worth it? Should I just go with a 50 yard zero since it is a a tighter holdat ranges? Pull a new AR out of the case, peer through some sights, and one of the first questions will invariably be What distance should I zero this stuff at? I could easily regale you with ballistic charts and simply say that at x distance youll be y inches high and thats why its better than z, but that would be a little disingenuous. Place the target at 25 yards. ._2Gt13AX94UlLxkluAMsZqP{background-position:50%;background-repeat:no-repeat;background-size:contain;position:relative;display:inline-block} I've come into a bit of a pickle about Zeroing my rifle I already use a 36 yard zero on my AR's and it works great on both the SBR and the standard 16 in Barrel. 09 at 50 yards for a 230 yard zero, max point blank range for deer would be 270 yards. Cons: None. You should zero at 30 yards, and then you can shoot out to 220 yards. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Easy. At ten yards, you will be POA/POI with a ten yard zero, but you will find that at other distances, your hold over and hold under will change drastically. Has anyone used this 36yd zero? Note: a 200 yard zero and a 50 yard zero are practically the same for these calibers. Or, in terms of hunting, a variation of less than the profile of a deer heart over 100 yards. After careful consideration and watching lots of videos I decided for type of shooting I do 10 yards the correct distance for me to zero. At the range I ran through some drills to work on accuracy and precision. Been using this for about a year. Sighting-in a hunting rifle to hit a certain number of inches high at 100 yards (or 100 meters) maximizes the point blank range of the rifle and cartridge and is superior to zeroing at a fixed distance like 200 yards. 40 yard zero, than anything inside of 40 back to zero will be no more than the offset from the bore axis to the sights. The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). Easier softer ways avail us nothing. If you are hunting in the woods your shooting range should not extend beyond 200 or 300 yards. In ballistic ae for example you can set a vital zone radius and in the chart it will give you the zero range and max range to hit inside that radius with no hold or adjustment. Once you learn the bullet drop, then you are left with windage which is the hard part in open country. Other Calibers may be used for differentpurposes so I would zero them according to the primary purpose. Long Range Precision Shooting: Can the AR-15 and AR-10 be Included in the Discussion? they have figured out a target you can zero on at 10 yards which will give you a 50/200 yard zero for your rifle at range. Im guessing this is all highly dependent on the velocities youre getting in your particular rifle? got to start shooting pistols more , sort of neglecting them a bit . The gray dot is 1.9 below your point of aim (POA) and represents your point of impact (POI). If you want to be sure, you will have to put your numbers into a ballistic calculator or give it a try. What I mean by different rifle zeros, Specifically in 223 or 5.56 caliber rifles, is the different ranges you can zero your rifle at andhow they affect the trajectory. Your rifle zero is only correct at two distances. For over a year I was thinking about changing my zero from 25 yards to 36 yards. UPDATE 2: It may go without saying but this target can also be used to fine-tune your zero at a greater distance. This includes 10.3 and 14.5 using 55g IMI and 77g Mk262 and BH equivalents. Now, since we're converting from a 100 -yard zero trajectory to a 200-yard zero trajectory, we begin by looking at how much we must adjust to rezero to the new It has the least amount of "spread" (combination of drop and rise of bullet out to 300 yrds) and you can download and print the target for free from the video I posted to get a 36 yard zero at 25 yards. But the 36 yard zero is flatter out to 300. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. Grabbed it and went out today to sight it in at 36 yards. The 12-yard zero is represented by the red arc. Crappy weather, windy day, but what the heck. In that trajectory chart above, I'm a max of 1.4 mils high at 100 yards, 1.7 mils low at 450 yards, and dead-on at 300 yards, as far as holdovers. SIGHTS ARE ZEROED TO THE WEAPON, NOT TO THE PERSON SHOOTING THE RIFLE Either the sight is matched to the bullet trajectory, or it isn't. There is no remembering hold unders, you just aim a little high inside 100 and keep going higher past 100. Lets just say Im going to use the same numbers as the 10.5 barrel. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. This is a great video. I have an AR-10 and a Bolt action, that need to be zeroed. (I can drive 45 minutes to some good long-ranges, but getting at least three hours free can be difficult). Look up Max Point Blank Range, or MPBR. UPDATE 3: I receive multiple emails weekly about this target and its effectiveness with various other calibers and rifles. Product prices mentioned in articles and videos are current as of the date of publication. That means from 0-100 yards you only need to be concerned with your height over bore when shooting a target. I use the 36 yard zero for all my irons and red dots. optics get the standard 100 yard zero. a red circle on a white backdrop would probably be . Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. A quick copy of the original article is below and you can link to it directly by clicking here. This makes it easy to achieve the POA/POI relationship necessary to achieve the rough 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards. Everything is nice and tight until 200 yards or so. Thus giving you 5-8 hold-under until about 225 yards. Reply Quote. The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization. That brings me to these two options, which Id like to talk about together because theyre pretty similar and do well to exploit the advantages of a practical carbine. 300 yards is great for longer barrels. Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Start typing to see results or hit ESC to close, Holistic Solutions Group: 2 Day Night Fighter. Vickers Tactical Steel Magazine Release for G43X/G48 (GMR-007S), Tip to Make DCC Clips Easier to Live With from Gypsy EDC, You Can Smell Like Kit Badger Lox and Company Badger Balm. THIS seriously. The rifle zeroed at 50 yards shot a little flatter with a max ordinate of just a few inches above the line of sight. I mentioned inread more , A question has come to mind lately about the various product offerings out in the firearm world particularly red dotread more . A solid option for shooting a short-barreled 223/5.56 to 200 yards. So aiming at a steel circle, you would have to hold off of the target. His 36-yard zero target is perfect. t of aim at 25 yards, which puts them at roughly point of aim at 100 yards because of how bullet trajectory works. Go run this in 25m increments and see if it still falls within your acceptable accuracy standards. It is a very fast way to zero which is very convenient for me since many carbines are in a constant state of flux as I try various items for review. The black represents your point of aim. I'll take it. The goal here is to begin at 100 yards and progressively increase your zero as you improve your shooting skills. Personally, I think you are overthinking it. Sight in at fifty yards so that most of the group (5 -10 shots) falls in the lower half of the dot. Out at 200 yards, you have a 1/10th of an inch holdover. Peasy. I use a 50yd zero for my scoped .223 has coyote rifle, using ammo in the 62gr-69gr range, because I get plenty of close shots. 36 Yard Zero for .556? I have been putting it to good use. Shawn is correct based on this analysis. Be sure to print at actual size. If you are planning on shooting the majority of time within 125 yards I dont see a benefit of a 36/300 zero and actually see some decent minuses for it. AT 36 you are going to have to hold under at 50 and maybe at 100. The latest content straight to your inbox plus an automatic entry to each of our monthly giveaways! Thank you all for your suggestions and input . Rifle Specs: M6A2 PSD 8.5 in bbl. 1 moa = 1 at 100 yards so at 25 yards 4 moa is only 1. The USMC method sees you zero at 36-yards for the initial intersection and that gets you all the way out to 300-yards. .ehsOqYO6dxn_Pf9Dzwu37{margin-top:0;overflow:visible}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu{height:24px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu{border-radius:2px}._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:focus,._2pFdCpgBihIaYh9DSMWBIu.uMPgOFYlCc5uvpa2Lbteu:hover{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10);outline:none}._38GxRFSqSC-Z2VLi5Xzkjy{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT{border-top:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-metaText);cursor:pointer;padding:8px 16px 8px 8px;text-transform:none}._2DO72U0b_6CUw3msKGrnnT:hover{background-color:#0079d3;border:none;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);fill:var(--newCommunityTheme-body)} I am 75 yo and I can not read the gray very well, really strains my eyes. 1.9 should get you close for the typical height over bore of an AR-15 optic. I have a Colt Sporter Match HBAR with A2 sights, built in 1993. In this article, I will beposting some datato share how much the bullet has risen and fallen at different distances with different zeros. Thanks for all the great info on your site! Like, a 18 bbl shooting 55gr might be better suited whereas a 10.5 bbl shooting 77gr might not be as well suited? 36yrd gave me the smallest spread of 6.125" to 250yrds and not much variation inside of 36yrds. Your mileage may vary. 100 yard Magnified optics recommended . The chief benefit to using a 100 yard zero is that whether your bullet is going 2,500 fps or 3,000 fps it is the peak trajectory. It is a clean design that is easy to see even at 200 yards with a 20x scope. So a 50 yard zero on a 16inch 5.56/223 barrel is point and shoot out to 200 yards and everything after that is a holdover. But it will stay inside of 5" all the way out to 300 yards and then drop 5 inches at 350 and about 13 inches at 400 yards. UPDATE: If you want to save even more time on the range, consider using this target for bore sighting at home. Nice But why are all the charts grayed out? Tungsten penetrator ). From plate carriers, to holsters, to tac-lights to hard shells Having spent time in a lot of environments and with the opportunity to field a lot of equipment, I have grown fond of well made gear. All that being said, the 50 yard zero continues to be one of my favorite zeroing schemes because its versatile, proven and effective. Put dot on center massfire away and you are GTG out to 300 with no thought needed for effective combat accuracy. If this proves to be accurate this would be very close to the 36 yard zero for the 5.56 round. Kurt Warner. If you want to be able to hold on someone's face and pull the trigger without needing to think about anything, 50 can facilitate that - the other two can't. Draw it out too. The 50-yard zero has flatter hold unders than the 36 yard zero out to 200. All your load data fits neatly in the boxes under each target. You can also see Frank Proctor explain it here. 36 yard zero Pros: Will get you out to 300 yards. ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} The views With the 36 yard zero being fairly non standard should I just avoid it due to most ranges not offering that particular known distance? If I need to shoot farther than that I can aim at the shoulder line to push out to 300 yards or hold on top of the head for 350. Editors Note: Please be sure to check out The Armory Life Forum, where you can comment about our daily articles, as well as just talk guns and gear. This is the way, OP. Posted February 16, 2015 in Optics, Rifles by Nathan S with 22 CommentsTags: City Shooting, JTT, Making Things Easy, targets. If you want to be accurate out to 500 yards, 3 inches high would be even better. ._3bX7W3J0lU78fp7cayvNxx{max-width:208px;text-align:center} Your largest holds are 4ish inches under at 175 yards and 3ish inches over at 300 yards. So, Im shooting an ar pistol, 7.5 barrel. This statement (and others like it) is one of the reasons 5.56 gets a bad rap. That seems like a lot. Logistically, it may also be easier for some shooters to get a 50 yard zero since many ranges may not have the facilities available to set up and shoot 36 yards. With the rifle zeroed at 36 yards, I can reasonably expect to hit a BC-Zone target out to 300 yards without excessive hold-overs. Is there a comparable distance to zero to that gives the same behavior? Therefore, with a 26-yard zero, you can hold on the target and expect to hit a 6-inch vital zone from 0 . The 25/36 yard options are better suited for home/self defense. Snipers Hide is a community of Snipers of all kinds, focusing on long range shooting, accuracy, and ballistics. The black dot represents your point of aim. Click to expand. ._3-SW6hQX6gXK9G4FM74obr{display:inline-block;vertical-align:text-bottom;width:16px;height:16px;font-size:16px;line-height:16px} However there are many who know a lot more than me. So if you want to convert them at 200 yards and you have -4.22 MOA like on the 25 yard zero, will be roughly an 8.83 hold under. You should always check your zero at the actual zero distance when possible but this will get you close. Does everyone need a $500-$750 red dot sight? Only skimmed the comments but some of y'all are missing the point there is no 50 vs 36 vs 25 discussion, they all accomplish different things especially with different barrel length and ammo combinations. Learn more about 36 yard zero here 50 yard The 50 yard zero is much tighter than the 36 yard zero for targets sitting from 25 to 250 yards, but there is about a 4" drop from 250 to 300 yards. However, over that 100 yards the trajectory is remarkably consistent. . This affords me the ability to be a little more precise on smaller targets out to 200-250 yards without hold-overs. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. A 36 yard zero will be on at 36 yards, and slightly low inside of that due to sight offset. You may remember Frank Proctors method for achieving a 50/200 yard zero at 10 yards with your AR-15 that was mentioned here a few months ago. This is then a 190 yard zero and -3.0 inches at 220 yards. Powered by Invision Community. What do you recommend as best Best zero distance for a 22 barrel? @keyframes ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5{0%{transform:rotate(0deg)}to{transform:rotate(1turn)}}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq{--sizePx:0;font-size:4px;position:relative;text-indent:-9999em;border-radius:50%;border:4px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyTextAlpha20);border-left-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-body);transform:translateZ(0);animation:ibDwUVR1CAykturOgqOS5 1.1s linear infinite}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq,._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{width:var(--sizePx);height:var(--sizePx)}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq:after{border-radius:50%}._3LwT7hgGcSjmJ7ng7drAuq._2qr28EeyPvBWAsPKl-KuWN{margin:0 auto} The 36 yard zero is favored by the US Marines. With calibers like .308 and 6.5 creedmoor. One suggestion. 1 MOA= roughly 1 at 100 yards (2 at 200 yards.) In this video I use the Caldwell Precision Tripod. Of course, it is best to refine your zero at distances greater than 10 yards. They have offered solid products for years andread more , Yesterday I stopped by the range for a quick day of shooting and testing my new ammunition. The problem is that it forces you to have to think when to hold under a certain amount on closer targets and when to hold dead on. ._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa{margin-top:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._3EpRuHW1VpLFcj-lugsvP_{color:inherit}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa svg._31U86fGhtxsxdGmOUf3KOM{color:inherit;fill:inherit;padding-right:8px}._3Z6MIaeww5ZxzFqWHAEUxa ._2mk9m3mkUAeEGtGQLNCVsJ{font-family:Noto Sans,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-weight:400;line-height:18px;color:inherit} When zeroed at 25 yards the round will also be zeroed at 300 yards. In the offset mount do you do a offset zero since it isnt directly over bore? In the video "ex-navy seal" Shawn Ryan, talks about the normal zeros.25,50,100, but he also speaks of an unusual one of 36 yards. and opinions expressed on this website are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the Chances are youll be very close, if not dead on. (5.56 62gr. Cons: Lots of hold under to remember out to 300 yards. The 10-yard zero will suffer the least in the long run, falling to ~3.38 at 75 yards and to ~6.15 below point-of-aim at 100 yards. Frankly, I dont think one zeroing scheme is better than another. Shooting smaller groups on a short zero don't make them smaller at 100. . To me this makes the 100 yard zero a perfect choice for a carbine that will be used in close terrain where long shots will be limited. It is a simple target with a 1.9 grid and two dots. The only reason I would like to have less complicated hold over math is for when I'm out shooting for practice and up in the mountains roaming around. 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